Notes from Traffic Subcommittee Meeting
March 9, 2007
Hosts: Mary Ann Brewin, Steve Martinot
Attending; Fred Dodsworth, David Dempster, Patricia McCoy
Report by David Dempster.
Discussion
Concerns about various intersections and blocks adjacent to or near
the proposed North Shattuck Plaza project (which is bounded by
Shattuck Ave, Vine St., and Rose St).
Rose St. between the light at Henry St & Shattuck Place (west end)
and Oxford St (east end):
slow traffic often occurs in this area at commute times, and on
weekends. The access to and egress from the Longs Drugs parking lot
appears to contribute greatly to the problem of slow traffic in this
area.
If cars on Rose St (from either the westbound or eastbound
directions) try to turn into the Longs Drugs parking lot, other cars
are very often backed up while the accessing car is either waiting
for a car to pull out of a stall in the L.D. lot (typical for
eastbound traffic) or waiting for traffic in the opposite direction
to clear so that a turn can be made (typical for westbound traffic).
This is particularly true on weekends and presents difficulties in
moving traffic efficiently through the area.
Suggestions: eliminate two (actually it would have to be four)
parking spaces on the north side of Rose Street opposite the entry to
L.D. parking lot. This would allow westbound Rose Street traffic to
go around a car making the turn from westbound Rose Street into Longs
Drugs parking lot.
Require traffic exiting Longs Drugs parking lot to turn right onto
eastbound Rose Street. This would have the effect of reducing the
number of times traffic from the Longs Drugs parking lot is backed up
because a car exiting the lot is trying to turn left onto westbound
Rose Street (frequent on weekends and at commute times). Cars exiting
the L.D. parking lot on a left turn often have to wait for eastbound
Rose Street traffic to clear in order to make the left turn.
Also:
-- Create one large central driveway into longs parking lot for both
entry and exit.
-- Move or underground telephone/utilities poles in front of Longs
driveway as they now block visibility especially when looking west
while exiting parking lot.
2)Recent proposals for reconfiguration of Shattuck Ave concurrent
with the NSP proposal would affect the two blocks of Rose St between
the stoplight at Henry/Shattuck Place and Walnut Street by
eliminating the southbound lane of Shattuck Ave between Rose St and
Shattuck Place. This would force traffic intended for southbound
travel to use the stoplight at Rose St, Henry St/Shattuck Place, turn
south on Shattuck Place (which borders the Safeway parking lot) in
order to go southbound on Shattuck Ave below Rose St. This would not
only force such traffic to go through a light and wait for opposing
traffic to clear, it would also cause westbound traffic to back up
behind cars waiting to make that left hand turn and cause lengthier
delays and lengthier travel time in the area.
If this were to happen (closing of small roads as above) both a left
turn lane and green turning arrows would be necessary at Rose and
Shattuck Place/Henry.
Concerns: delayed response time for emergency vehicles (paramedics,
fire, police). How will the NSP project help this situation? A
recently proposed reconfiguration of the area did nothing to help
traffic flow. In fact, one feature of a recent proposal for street
reconfiguration closed southbound Shattuck access between Rose Street
and Shattuck Place.
Vine Street at Shattuck Avenue
westbound Vine Street traffic sometimes will swing around the corner
at Shattuck Ave in a rush to get to an open parking stall in front of
Black Oak Books or Saul's Deli. The potential for a serious
pedestrian injury or a fatality is significantly higher when
westbound Vine Street drivers behave this way.
Eastbound Vine Street drivers (above Shattuck Ave) have also been
known to swing into the westbound lane in order to go around other
eastbound drivers waiting for a parking spot. This poses a threat to
cyclists in the westbound lane of Vine Street.
Concern was expressed that serious injury or a fatality might occur
at this intersection, because of these observed behaviors. An
instance was cited of a pregnant woman having been killed by a driver
at the intersection of Shattuck and Vine while crossing Shattuck Ave.
It was suggested that bulb-outs placed on both sides of Vine Street
immediately east of Shattuck Ave will allow pedestrians to be more
prominently placed in the view of Vine Street drivers both eastbound
and westbound while remaining in the relatively safe haven of the
sidewalk. Such bulb-out placement may then have the effect of
encouraging drivers to slow down because they will be more likely to
see pedestrians waiting to cross the intersection. Bulb-outs on both
sides of Shattuck Ave immediately south of Vine Street were also
advocated for similar reasons.
Bulb outs would also give pedestrians less distance to go
crossing Shattuck.
Reconfiguration of Shattuck Avenue between Shattuck Place and Rose Street
It is of essential importance that northbound Shattuck Avenue remains
open to emergency vehicle access (paramedics, fire, and police) to
neighborhoods north and east of this location. Any reconfiguration
that closes or slows traffic on this small stretch of northbound
Shattuck Ave will result in unacceptable delays in response time.
A suggested configuration including an exit lane for northbound
Shattuck Ave that would roughly parallel the curve of the major lanes
of traffic as Shattuck Ave becomes Shattuck Place and then becomes
the natural extension of northbound Shattuck Avenue as it travels
north of Rose Street. This would have the effect of shifting the
northbound Shattuck Avenue lane further west than its current
location, thus potentially opening up plaza space.
Relative to this suggestion, concern was expressed that this would
create a new hazard for collisions at the point that the northbound
exit lane meets the southbound Shattuck Ave lane at the north side of
Shattuck Place.
Rose Street at Spruce Street
This 4-way intersection is regulated by a three-way stop with only
the eastbound direction of Rose St. having no stop sign. Very often
eastbound Rose Street rivers unfamiliar with the area will very
nearly come to a stop at this intersection or come to a complete
stop, in spite of there being no such restriction. This problem is
particularly prevalent on weekends, when the number of people
unfamiliar with the intersection is greater, probably because they
are traveling to places like Tilden Park. As a consequence, drivers
familiar with the intersection who happen to be behind drivers who
slow down will often sound their horn to get the driver in front of
them to move. Residents in the area report that they frequently hear
car horns throughout the daylight hours of the weekend.
Southbound Spruce Street traffic will most often turn right onto
westbound Rose Street. Very often drivers will not come to a complete
stop, but will slow enough only to verify that there is no westbound
Rose traffic and no northbound Spruce Street traffic turning into the
westbound Rose Street lane. There have been instances of near misses
with pedestrians and cyclists on southbound Spruce who slow down even
less and very nearly run into cars making the turn from southbound
Spruce Street onto westbound Rose Street.
Other southbound Spruce Street traffic will try to hurry across the
intersection at Rose Street to continue on southbound Spruce Street.
This can result in near misses with eastbound Rose Street traffic and
might also result in a near miss with a pedestrian crossing Spruce
Street on the south side of Rose Street because the southbound Spruce
Street driver has failed to notice a pedestrian crossing the
intersection.
The pavement on Spruce Street immediately south of Rose Street has
been marked for bulb-outs on both the west and east sides. This may
have the effect of encouraging southbound Spruce Street traffic to
turn right onto westbound Rose Street, as it may give the appearance
of being a road closed to through traffic. It is hoped that this will
result in a calmer Spruce Street south of Rose Street, but that is
yet to be seen.
Also mentioned were the Rose street and M.L.King jr. intersection
needing a passing lane on the right to go around cars waiting to turn
left (or a left turn lane, again with turning arrows).
Cedar at the oxford intersection also needs turning arrows on cedar
for turning onto oxford both going west and east.,
We expressed interest in having a Berkeley traffic engineer come
talk to us, the committee and the whole of loccna at some point, to
answer our questions and explain city decisions about traffic in this
area.